Hi from Switzerland

Cherry Turbo · Post by **Cherry Turbo** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:17 pm

Hi,

my name is Thomas and I life in Switzerland.

I used to work as a nissan mechanic (1997 to 2002).
My first car was a 1985 Cherry/Pulsar Turbo (1997-1999)
then I did change to a 1993 Sunny GTI (Pulsar N14) SR20DE.

After various cars I had the wish to go back to the roots…
So I decidet to search for a Cherry Turbo

This is the first picture I took from the car when I bought it.
It was in a garage for about 4 years, so it is very dusty.

Little facts about the Nissan Cherry Turbo in switzerland:
It was importet only 1984- 1986
It was non Cat Converter / leadet.
It was rated with 77kW / 105hp (crazy isn’t it?)
It was only as 3-Door sold.
It had vented disc/ drum brakes.
It was sold in this colors:
Red/ Black
Yellow/Black
Anthracite/Black
Solid Black
In 1986 was a Special Model:
White/Black, wit electric Sunroof, Momo Wheels (6x14” +27 offset)
and white checkered interior

I will post more pictures in the next days...[/img]

Post by **shanec86** » Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:22 pm

Hi Thomas, welcome to the forum. Always great to see members from all over the world!

Will wait to see some pictures when you upload them!

Post by **Ash** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:47 am

welcome to the forum Thomas. your Cherry turbo looks very tough. i like it

TurboZ.Dude · Post by **TurboZ.Dude** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:52 am

Hello there, and welcome!

Great little car, isn't it? A happy little pocket-rocket with surprising performance!

Interesting specs... especially the power rating. I've always heard and read that the European-spec Cherry Turbo produces 115 horsepowers. But IIRC, it was the differing power output standards that caused these slight variations, right?

boosted · Post by **boosted** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 2:43 am

Hello and welcome to the forum (Grüzi Nachbar

)

I didn't know that the swiss Cherry Turbos were rated at 77kw.
It still interests me what causes those power output differences.

Because im pretty sure switzerland has (and had) the same power specifications than other european countries (DIN), there might be a difference between the maps in the ecu ....?
According to FAST, switzerland had different ECU -partnumbers, to wit 23710-29M10 or 23710-29M11.
Can you confirm this, Thomas?
Nice cherry btw.

greets
martin

Cherry Turbo · Post by **Cherry Turbo** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:17 pm

Hi @ all,

I will take more pictures after cleaning the car....
I have also to repair some "crimes" the previous owner did to the car.
I can't await drive the car and hear the whistle from the turbo

@ Martin
I will check the ECU Number next time I'm working on the car.
Yes the 77kw are also DIN.
It could be that switzerland had start to have some Pollution Control Laws from 1976 on. Something like the California standard in the US.

Cherry Brochure

This is a pdf from the Swiss Brochure for the Cherry Turbo,
the last Page is from the Nissan Workshop Manual. ( 52MB ! )

I will try to put all info's I have on the net.

SET23L · Post by **SET23L** » Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:33 pm

welcome to the forum m8.

cherry looks good.
louie

boosted · Post by **boosted** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:16 am

hi thomas,
my next question would have been which octane number your cherry turbo is rated at.

but then i had a look at your brochure and read, that it is fueled by regular gas, which would be 91 octane?! is that correct?

greets
martin

Cherry Turbo · Post by **Cherry Turbo** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:57 am

hi martin,
in switzerland is regular gas 95 octane an "super" 98 octane and in the past leadet gas .... but it look like the torque is lower.... so it could be less timing at higher rpm?
Is there a way to download the map from the ecu?

boosted · Post by **boosted** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:51 am

Cherry Turbo wrote:hi martin,
in switzerland is regular gas 95 octane an "super" 98 octane and in the past leadet gas .... but it look like the torque is lower.... so it could be less timing at higher rpm?

so your cherry is rated at 95ROZ(RON)? my cherry turbo is rated at 97 octane.
i just looked at its specs: 84kw @5600rpm and 162Nm(16.5kgm)@3200rpm
well it could be that the fueling and ignition maps are responsible for these 9HP difference...

Cherry Turbo wrote: Is there a way to download the map from the ecu?

unfortunately not. it is stored in a simple prom which has to be desoldered and readout.
greets
martin

photoglossy · Post by **photoglossy** » Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:06 am

Its just to bad that after 25odd years none of our cars, in standard form, would even be close to that anymore. There will be so much variation it really doesnt matter to much.

Cherry Turbo · Post by **Cherry Turbo** » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:10 am

so I had time to take a closer look at my cherry turbo....
bad news, i will need a new turbo, a new radiator and all the mounting parts to install the radiator