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answer to afm upgrade?

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T3T4 hybrid, FMIC and MT8 =

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Post by shanec86 »

doubt it, E15 AFMS are vane type, which kinda stop doing anything after a certain rpm anyway.

Thats to suit hotwire type
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Post by Valentich »

Hey, maybe someone will know...
Somewhere in the last 3 years, (When I was reading everything I can about these things)
I read an article about upgrading a AMF on a E15T.
What they used was another bigger one (vane type),
and where able to do a swop of the PC board.
As I want to "Keep it Legal" I wanted to try this,
Maybe do a before and after Dyno. Just to see what really happens
Anyway....
I am 100% sure about this article,
but after a computer crash, lost where it was (F@#king Computers)
Has anyone come across anything like that.

PS, I think DFA are fantastic,
cheap way of tuning things a bit,
and again "keeping things looking legal".

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yeah im pretty sure it was Bjorn who used a Ford Sierra one
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yeah there you go

http://www.woken.se/wok/2001/nissan_mant010804_e.htm

ford scorpio which is basically a sierra
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Post by photoglossy »

An L20ET AFM is an easy upgrade if you're looking for a larger diameter unit. Just open them both up, swap the E15ET chip in, solder it up and go for it. I dont think it really does anything tho.... Just get an aftermarket ECU, they are cheap as chips!
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Post by EA-73-XA »

yes...

but iv seen a rrc e15 wih a hotwire type..
T3T4 hybrid, FMIC and MT8 =

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Post by EA-73-XA »

yes...

but iv seen a rrc e15 wih a hotwire type..
T3T4 hybrid, FMIC and MT8 =

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Post by Damo »

It becomes a question of how fast do you want to go. The stocko AFM will have less than 1 psi pressure drop across it at 140kw! If that is too much, rather than going down the path of stuffing around with another AFM which may flow more but cause fueling issues everywhere, why not build in a AFM bypass which opens up at .25psi restriction across the AFM but leaves everything else standard.


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Post by poeticjustice88 »

i have a rather, "nooby" question. But my car is not running an AFM, so what benefits does an AFM have ?

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Post by Damo »

poeticjustice88 wrote:i have a rather, "nooby" question. But my car is not running an AFM, so what benefits does an AFM have ?

Michael
Hey Michael, long time no chat.
The benefits of an engine running a AFM is far better light load calculation as air flow is directly related to AFM output, where a map (speed density) sensor relies on a volumetric efficiency table to 'guess' the engine breathing. Map sensed engines can run into big tuning issues with 'big' cams running excessive overlap at low engine speed. The map sensor reads lowish vacuum which indicates large throttle opening which is not the case. Where a AFM only measures the air entering the engine.


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Post by n12et_exa »

i have a mx6 afm i was going to try to fit to my exa it has the larger body and is still the flap style afm has any body tried this befor that anyone knows of????
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n12et_exa wrote:i have a mx6 afm i was going to try to fit to my exa it has the larger body and is still the flap style afm has any body tried this befor that anyone knows of????
Re-read the 9th post in this thread and if that doesn't satisfy, do what you like. I can almost without hesitation say that no one has bothered to ever try and adapt a m6x AFM to the E15.

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Post by Callumgw »

I use one from a first series 300zx. and yes I swapped out the circuit board, it had a different style temp sensor... and I had a good board and sensor. Then I tuned it, I have the method somewhere....but it was by ear!.

Did it make a difference? can't say, cause when I put it on I changed lots of other things at the same time.

Actually I wont need it once the Haltech goes in, which is happening now!. . . . slowly . . .

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Post by baz »

bin the afm & just wack in a haltech, nuff said!
My old exa I created from granny spec to a neat little BRIGHT car: http://forum.n12turbo.com/viewtopic.php?t=3903

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